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Post by Charlene on Nov 13, 2004 23:07:57 GMT -5
A Bureau of Justice Statistics survey of murder cases disposed in 1988 in the courts of large urban counties, found that 16% of murder victims were members of the defendant's family: 6.5% were killed by their spouses, 3.5% by their parents, 1.9% by their own children, 1.5% by their siblings, and 2.6% by other relatives. Women were 45% of the victims in murders involving family members but 18% of victims in other murders. Among family murder defendants, 35% were female versus 7% among nonfamily defendants. Women were over half of the defendants (55%) in only one category of family murder: parents killing their offspring. Firearms were used in 42% of family murders, compared to 63% of nonfamily murders. 7/94 NCJ 143498 www.ojp.gov/bjs/abstract/mif.htm
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Post by pumpkin12903 on Nov 14, 2004 16:39:57 GMT -5
Dear Charlene, thank you for these statistics! They show how common inter-family murder is. I'm so thankful for this board and the support it provides. Thank you again.
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Post by guest on Mar 14, 2005 13:29:38 GMT -5
Hello,
My husband has a very troubled son who he brought here from Haiti. I found out through siblings and other children that this boy was performing voodoo rituals and making plans to kill me so that he could bring his mother here to be with his father in the U.S.. My husband didn't think this was serious but I then found out that this boy has gone so far as to plan how he could put poison in my coffee and that if that didn't work he was planning on stabbing me and my infant grandson while we slept. The child is only 10 years old but I have taken this all very seriously. My husband and I are now seperated because of the fact that he doesn't take any of this seriously and I won't live in fear for mine and my baby's life.
Please, do you think I am over reacting? It looks from the statistics that my concerns are founded.
If anyone has any comments, please email me at carolineislands@msn.com
Thanks
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Post by Charlene on Mar 14, 2005 15:40:22 GMT -5
It does not sound as though you are over-reacting, as long as you trust the sources of the information. I am sure that many murder victims had warnings that they ignored for similar reasons and did not live to regret it. I think your husband needs to see that the boy gets counseling to look into these suspicions further and let's see what the psychologist thinks! Charlene Hello, My husband has a very troubled son who he brought here from Haiti. I found out through siblings and other children that this boy was performing voodoo rituals and making plans to kill me so that he could bring his mother here to be with his father in the U.S.. My husband didn't think this was serious but I then found out that this boy has gone so far as to plan how he could put poison in my coffee and that if that didn't work he was planning on stabbing me and my infant grandson while we slept. The child is only 10 years old but I have taken this all very seriously. My husband and I are now seperated because of the fact that he doesn't take any of this seriously and I won't live in fear for mine and my baby's life. Please, do you think I am over reacting? It looks from the statistics that my concerns are founded. If anyone has any comments, please email me at carolineislands@msn.com Thanks
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Post by lilbird on Mar 25, 2005 10:00:35 GMT -5
I don't think you are overreacting. Dr. Phil has had a couple of shows on this very topic. This boy's father needs to step up to the plate and take this seriously.
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Post by katie41160 on Jun 29, 2005 1:34:21 GMT -5
i dont think that you are over reacting at allthis is a very tramatic thing.. and i think you did the right thing by leaving because your life is much more important than that boys sick thoughts.. and i also agree that the father needs to get this little boy couceling and seeif all the screws are properly in place... im proud that you got out of that situation... dont feel bad that you took it seriously, you never really know what anyone is capable of doing... you def did the best bet for you and the baby....
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Post by joanwakefield on Aug 19, 2005 23:34:02 GMT -5
You are not over reacting! My mother told me, if front of my husband, that she wanted my father dead (her words). She also told my sister thath she wanted to kill him. My Father then put her on the phone and told her to tell my sister how she planned to do it. She said she was going to shoot him.
My mother was partially paralyzed from a stroke and confined to a wheelchair. None of us, including my father, took this threat seriously. Sadly, on June 7th of this year, she shot him in the heart. I found him sitting on the sofa, looking like he was taking a nap. I didn't know he was dead until she told me that she shot him. It was then that I saw the red stain on the front of his red shirt.
Don't underestimate the threat, the way we did. My mother is severely impaired by the stroke, but she still managed to pull the trigger. A child with evil intent is at least as deadly. Please protect yourself and the baby.
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Post by purples on Jan 29, 2006 3:26:33 GMT -5
Your not over reacting! I wish Mike and I would have taken Jeff's threats seriously! Jeff called Mike and told him he was gonna kill him, 3 days later, Mike is dead! I'm not even going to start the if's, and's , but's... It just destroyed so many lives.. It makes me so sad that jeff doesn't have any remorse.. If your husband doesn't believe you, then he needs to go on down the road.!!! How would he feel if the tables was turned... My prayers are with you!!!
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Post by mrpsports on Oct 29, 2007 19:19:17 GMT -5
HELLO EVERYONE , I KNOW I HAVE ASKED THIS A HUNDRED TIMES AND I SEEM TO GET THE ONLY ANSWER WHICH I THINK SHOULD BE OF BIG HELP, THAT ANSWER IS CONTACT THE SURVIORS BUREAU OF HOMICIDE,I DO EXACTLY THAT, BUT AND I MEAN A BIG BUTTTTTTTT, THEM ROTTEN NO GOOD FOR NOTHING COPS IN FLORIDA AT BROWARD SHERIFFS OFFICE WON'T EVEN TALK TO THE SURVIVORS OF HOMICDE GROUPS THAT CALL TO SEE WHY THEY WON'T CALL ME TO TELL ME WHAT IS GOING ON WITH OUR MOHTERS CASE AFTER TEN YEARS OF SITTING ON THERE FAT ------ SORRY I HAD TO SAY THAT. I DON'T HAVE THE MONEY ANYMORE TO HIRE ANYONE I BLEW EVERYTHING I HAD IN MY SAVINGS GOING BACK AND FORTH FOR THE CANDLE LIGHT VIGILS AND EVREY YEAR AT THE HORRIABLE DATE TO PRESS THEM TO DO ANYTHING THE ONLY ANSWERS I KEEP GETTING IS ITS AN ON GOING INVETAGATION AND WE ARE STILL LOOKING INTO SOMETHING, WELL THIS I'M GOING TO SAY THEY ARE FULL OF *deleted* THEY ARE ROTTEN NO GOOD FOR NOTHING LIERS,I TRY TO GET THE NEWS PEOPLE TO HELP US AND ONCE THE POLICE FIND OUT ABOUT IT THE PUT A SQUASH ON ANYHTING I SAY THAT DOWN GRADES THEM , THAT IS THE TRUTH AND ONLY THE TRUTH, I ASK SEVERAL TIMES FOR THEM TO ASK FOR HELP FROM THE FBI THEY KEEP SAYING THEY DONT NEED IT, THE FBI WHICH I TALKED TO IN MIAMI WERE VERY NICE TO ME BUT SAID THEY CAN'T DO A THING UNLESS BROWARD SHERIFFS OFFICE ASK FOR HELP. I CAN'T TAKE ANYMORE OF THIS BEFORE I DO SOMETHING STUPID, THEY SAID AT FRIST THEY HAD SUSPECTSWELL WERE THE HECK ARE THEY, I COULD CARE LESS IF ITS ONE OF MY OWN FAMILY MEMBERS I WANT THEM TO FRY FOR THIS, MY MOTHER WAS A HELPLESS 71 HALF CRIPPLED WOMEN SHE DIDN'T NEED TO BE BRUTILY KILLED THE WAY SHE WAS, ALL THEY HAD TO DO WAS THROW HER INTO A CLOSET, NOT ONE PERSON CAN DO WHAT HAPPEN IN THAT APRATMENT THAT NIGHT THAT IS WHY I KNOW THE NEXT DOOR NEIHBOR KNOWS MORE THEN HSE TOLD THE POLICE AND NOW SHE IS GONE WHO KNOWS WERE, AND THE SUSPECT MY MOTHER WAS TERRIFIED OF IS ALSO GONE,WHAT ARE THE COPS DOING. I SWEAR IF I HAD A CHANCE TO MAKE FATS MONEY TO PAY FOR MORE HELP I WOULD DO ANYTHING RIGHT ABOUT NOW. SO I'M OPENED TO SUGGESTIONS ANYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY AND I MEAN IT
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Post by Janet-Beth's Mom on Oct 29, 2007 23:18:48 GMT -5
Mrpsports,
I am so sorry for your loss of your sweet Mother. I cannot imagine the heartbreak and frustration to see so little done after that kind of loss.
Have you contacted Parents of Murdered Children? There is a link for them at the top of the page, and you can email their national office from that page. They used to have some kind of second review program, to help get cases reopened or moving again.
I know one MVS whose son was murdered in Florida, they said it was a drug overdose initially, and she knew he did not use drugs. And how did he get rope burns on his wrists if he did it to himself anyway, for starters. So many things were not adding up.
Parents of Murdered Children did a second review of the reports available on the case, and even did a second autopsy. And the case was reopened as a homicide. That was as far along as it all got while I was still in contact with her, so I don't know what happened after that
Perhaps you might want to see if there is some way this program could help in your case, maybe to get things moving again? I hope that something gets these detectives motivated. Perhaps some others might have suggestions too? I pray that a way is found to find justice for your mother.
Blessings are wished for you,
Janet
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Post by pumpkin12903 on Oct 30, 2007 9:58:59 GMT -5
Dear mrpsports, I'm so sorry about your Mother. I agree 100% with Janet that POMC is a wonderful group that can hopefully help you. Every time I've sent them (the national office) e-mail I've gotten an answer quickly. I'll never understand HOW some detectives don't care! Thank God for the good 1's who DO care! I'm so sorry you're going through all this. Take care.
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Post by lilithb on Aug 3, 2008 14:27:20 GMT -5
I do not think you are over reacting at all! That is serious and that needs to be brought to everyones attention.. Before my father was murder, there were warning signs which were ignored. I don't know where to suggest you go first but perhaps the police, then a counselor, clergy person.. I would tell every one I knew about this child and I am afraid he would have to be removed .
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