|
Post by meme on Feb 26, 2006 0:29:09 GMT -5
Bruce, my best friend was viciously murdered by the woman he was divorcing. She knocked him unconscious with a sledgehammer, and while she was cutting him up, he regained consciousness long enough to tell the police what happened. Bruce's family heard numerous times the death threats from the wife. Yet not one family member witnessed for Bruce (to the police) these threats so he could get her arrested and get an order of protection. Now, the family will not tell the police about the threats! I am devastated. How can the victim's family be such cowards? Bruce was building a church and was the purest-hearted man I had ever met. April 10th will be one year. The murderer is out on bond- house arrest, and living in Bruce's house where the crime took place. Bruce's family repainted over the bloodstained walls, and replaced the bloody carpet BEFORE the funeral!?!?
|
|
|
Post by pumpkin12903 on Feb 27, 2006 6:30:27 GMT -5
Dear Meme, I'm very sorry about your best friend. I believe cowardice is very common. It makes me sick to be honest. Running and hiding from life and those who make threats (such as your friend's estranged wife) is the EASIEST way to deal with things, but has the worst results. Facing things is the hardest, but with the biggest rewards. There was some cowardice in my family to a degree, in that my Mother's mental illness wasn't fully faced by different family members and friends. My Mother murdered my Grandma and Dad. As for those you mentioned who aren't facing this, if it were me, I'd want nothing to do with them. Life's too short to spend with messed-up people. I've really been learning this the past few years, since I moved to a new city for a job and away from my TRUE family. By true I mean those who truly care, aren't cowards, and come through for me if I need any kind of help. I'm glad you found this board and hope you find some comfort here. Please keep up updated and take care.
|
|
|
Post by meme on Feb 27, 2006 18:15:54 GMT -5
You hit the nail on the head (running and hiding)! I cannot understand anyone who sees and hears threats or abuse and does absolutely nothing about it. It is an outrage. They then make excuses for the murderer, such as "she was led to it". That is BS. No one leads another to murder, that is a decision the murderer makes all on their own.-------------- How long ago did your loss occur? I feel for you. To have your own parent murdered stays with you the rest of your life. So sorry! The promise of eternal life is what keeps me going. I like to think of this life as a blink of an eye, compared to the eternity we have to share with our loved ones.-------------- There is a theory that ALL murderers are mentally ill. Some may be, but others enjoy being evil, and they hide behind smiles and soft voices. How better to fool a jury! Thank you fo your support. I feel like I could scream from the rooftop against this murderer.
|
|
|
Post by taterfay on Feb 27, 2006 18:49:38 GMT -5
I am so sorry Meme. I come with a slightly different take on things. My sister's family and friends all knew she was being abused by the man that ultimately killed her and no matter how much we all urged her to get out of the relationship, she was unable or unwilling, for whatever reason (domestic violence and why people stay is very complicated)...but I agree that just ignoring abuse that one witnesses is so wrong. Many people in society (family, friends, neighbors) have this attitude of "It's not my business" and they say and do nothing and it is a huge shame that people don't try to get involved..maybe they'd save a life!! Take Care and once again, I'm so sorry for your loss!
|
|
|
Post by wordup on Feb 28, 2006 15:04:57 GMT -5
Dang it Meme, what a flip of the script, something non of us here would ever understand about that family, unless there is something more to this than what you have not be made aware of, I'm like the others, I'm sorry to hear about your friend and I can not get over what you have share with us, I mean nothing is surprising any more, but I tell you want, I'm glad you are here and I hope there will be something said to you alone the way, that will give you a little strenght to move another step. We do know the pain of loosing one that we love and care about, so fell free to come and just vent as long as you like, We care about what you are going through.
|
|
|
Post by pumpkin12903 on Mar 1, 2006 11:11:13 GMT -5
Dear Meme, my loss was 15 years ago, when I was 24. Thanks for your concern. I agree with you, to ignore abuse is unacceptable. It's hiding from the hard things in life. Taterfay, I was kind of in the boat you were in with my best friend. Her parents and I repeatedly told her to leave her violent alcoholic husband. It took a long time, but she got out and is a very changed person today, by that I mean very changed for the better. It was SO frustrating during those years! It's not true it's not our business as you say others say. It IS our business when abuse is involved. When my fiance and I were 1st dating, I sat him down and laid down my rules for any physical abuse, NO TOLERANCE on my part and he agreed no tolerance for me doing anything to him also. I will never let anyone die like my Dad if I can help it. Verbal abuse can also lead to killing, as it did in my family. Meme, there will always be people who are evil who put on a "front". It's disgusting. I've met some myself that aren't evil in that they've ever murdered anyone, but they verbally abuse and hurt and then blame the victim. They take no accountability. There's no shame or anything. I've been going through something like this lately to be honest. As long as there's the abuse of free will, these people will do their thing. But when we see abuse no matter who it is being abused, we HAVE to speak out! And intervene as much as we can in the situation. Thanks for listening.
|
|
|
Post by meme on Mar 1, 2006 13:34:58 GMT -5
Thank you all so much for the support! Abuse is something I cannot tolerate. In this case, the husband was abused for 18 years before he was murdered. No one that witnessed the abuse was willing to tell the police, so he could have her arrested and get an order of protection. ________________________________________ People generally believe a big strong man can protect imself. Yes, they can. But Bruce was unwilling to strike a woman, even in defense of his own live. The first thing the police say is they will investigate to see if the murder of the man was in retaliation for abuse! Assuming that the man is always the abuser is SO WRONG!!! ________________________________ Yes, there is much more to the story. Bruce married the murderer because the woman intentionally got pregnant to entrap him. He knew he could potentially be the father, and said "every child needs a father", he agreed to raise the child until the child was 18. This was a loveless, nightmare of a marriage. _______________________________Four days after the child turned 18, Bruce is murdered. They had argued over the property settlement for over two years. He wanted to pay the monster half the equity and keep the land/home because he was building a CHURCH on his land. "This church", Bruce said "was for all the people the other churchs turned away". Bruce grew a huge garden and gave out fresh vegetables to the whole neighborhood and even to strangers. He would feed those who came to his church, and provide emergency shelter for anyone with no safe place to go. _________________________________________ As far as his family, every one who heard the death threats (and did nothing) has blood on their hands.
|
|
|
Post by pumpkin12903 on Mar 5, 2006 10:03:05 GMT -5
Meme, YES, MEN getting abused DOES NOT get enough attention! My best friend (female) who left her abusive husband told me this. She works with helping others out of domestic violence now. She'd told me also that the men getting abused don't get enough attention. Another thing is that this domestic violence happens with gay couples. So this rot is in every kind of relationship it appears. Reading about what happened to your friend confirms the fact that there's evil people all over. Here he was very good to her and got killed in return. What a sick mess. Users are all over. She obviously used him, and trapping him with pregnancy, what a sick thing, to use that baby as a weapon. I hate when women do this. It's putting the child in the way, using an innocent to get ahead. I agree with you, those who didn't do anything about the abuse have blood on their hands. I see this with my own family. Those who couldn't be bothered with my Mother and trying to get her to get help with her mental problems will be accountable to God 1 day. I know I did all I could to help her, so get comfort in that. What happened to your friend is just plain old sin and not caring on her part, and on the part of the family who did nothing to intervene in the abuse.
|
|
|
Post by meme on Mar 8, 2006 21:15:52 GMT -5
I have a word for those women who intentionally entrap unsuspecting men. They are not mothers, they are MOOS. They just reproduce like livestock, like cows. They are too lazy to think of having a job, much less a career. This MOO gained 100 pounds with the pregnancy and never took the weight off. What a drastic disappointment for Bruce. He could have had any woman he wanted, but he was honorable enough to raise this child. She looks nothing like either side of the family, and has bright red hair. Where did this bright orange red hair come from??? _________________________________________________ To entrap a man means he will support the child, but if the man didn't love the woman to begn with, there is no guarantee he will EVER love the MOO. Why would the MOO think he would stay with her abusive, evil personality after the child turns 18? No surprise there. Did she think he deserved to be murdered because he didn't love her? Psycho-MOO. ___________________________________________ There are too many evil people in this world because they get away with too much, including murder.
|
|
|
Post by wordup on Mar 10, 2006 6:15:47 GMT -5
Well meme, you have said a mouth full that time,and I also wanted to say to you from your earlier post, Your friend sound like a great person, what you have said about him, I can see why you feel as you do, and I think this is one of those things I ponder sometime, Why does bad things happen to good people?
|
|
|
Post by meme on Mar 10, 2006 12:55:51 GMT -5
Wordup, Thanks for your comment. _______________________ It would be nice to finish the church he was building but it's on his land where the murderer now lives on house arrest. (his property automatically went to the 18 yr old who allows the MOO to live there). After trial, hopefull she will be put away for life. ______________________________________ It is hard to accept but good people have already spiritually evolved enough to have perfected, and go home to God. We are the ones left without them, left to deal with the murderers. When murderers receive swift justice, they stop. We need to bring back the electric chair and set the temp on a slow burn.
|
|
|
Post by wordup on Mar 10, 2006 14:47:54 GMT -5
wait she is not locked up? I mean what's really up with this? House arrest? why is she not locked up. so do you have to pass that property on the way to where you live? I hate the church will not be build, this would have been good, and still can be, just have to find another place, provided that some one else feels his purpose to continue it. take care meme.
|
|
|
Post by meme on Mar 11, 2006 14:38:43 GMT -5
Wordup, No, the filthy murderer is no longer locked up. After six months in jail, she was due a bond hearing. The judge reduced her bond form one million to 100K, so only 10K had to be posted. ______________________________________________Since this murdering b!tch worked as a court reporter, she had her attorney employers write sympathy letters to the judge to reduce bond. The judge is not to know anything of the case before deciding bond issues, so he let her out! _____________________________________________ I want to go to the property (no, I don't pass by normally) and photograph the church, in order to paint a landscape of his yard w/ the church as he said in detail, how he wanted to finish the church. Evil murderer lives on church site... Ironic, huh? _______________________________________________ The murdering b!tch is right there in the house, only a few hundred feet away. God help me when I go there. I don't know if "house arrest" includes the yard or not. I would love nothing better than to have that murderer approach me while I am photographing the church from the adjoining city property.
|
|
|
Post by meme on Mar 20, 2006 23:55:02 GMT -5
Photographed the church. The murderer was inside the house, and drew back the drapes to watch. I could not see her. All 4 corners of the house had been equipped with flood lights which were ON during the day even. She's paranoid now, so that's good. Don't want the murderer to get all comfy & cozy. ______________________________________________________________________ This murder trial was postponed til May 22.
|
|