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Post by meme on May 4, 2006 22:06:12 GMT -5
I read where murderers claim they were "on DRUGS and didn't know what they were doing" when they went on a murder spree. THIS IS A FLIMSY, THREADBARE EXCUSE. ____________________ I do NOT believe drugs will make anyone do anything out of their character. Drugs may make someone drive more reckless, be louder, lose their balance, forget a phone number, or kiss a frog but drugs won't completely change someone's moral character. ___________________________ To use the excuse of "drugs made me do it" is a pathetic attempt to transfer the blame. I was a teen in the hippy days, tried all kinds of drugs with my friends, and NEVER did I ever so much as consider doing anything immoral- especially attack and MURDER someone!!! ___________________ Drug use should not be allowed in a court of law as a defense to murder. "I didn't know what I was doing". They knew enough to stab someone else besides themselves because they KNEW it would hurt. ______________ That's about as stupid as it gets. NO EXCUSES ALLOWED, especially whining about being high on drugs.
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Post by toniann on May 4, 2006 22:20:20 GMT -5
I truly think Its a generation thing.? My sweet boys sometimes say they will stick a s.o.b. and I(with wide eyes) ask would you really puncture someone to the point that it takes their lives... ?? They looked at me and got serious........... and said no. but they(the new gen) are so quick to say such things that they think that well if so and so would,,,, I could....then there they go not understanding that they are ending somones life!!!!!!
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Post by meme on May 5, 2006 21:21:05 GMT -5
Toniann, Sounds like the boys are acting out a video game. I hope they don't go to a violent, gangbanger school! __________________ Society has been so oversaturated with glorified drug use & violence that it's "same old everyday stuff". If you've ever smoked pot as a teen, you know that will not turn you into a murderer. I think one already has the predisposition to murder, gets high, then CLAIMS the drug made them murder.
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Post by toniann on May 5, 2006 22:02:47 GMT -5
Your are very right meme ,,,the same young man who killed my daughter and then himself....AT 5 years old....killed a baby kitten, and buried it in several spots in the yard,I TOLD THEM then that he needed therapy..But what I think...Becauase he loved her soooooooo much,and the drugs(not pot) where there he might have gotten sum bad stuff that threw him off.....That was my only point!
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Post by toniann on May 5, 2006 22:08:04 GMT -5
my boys go to a very small school and >>>>>>>when the aliens were walking out , my youngest boy came home and said......" a bunch of white kids walked out today!" I said "why" he replied" CUZ THEY'RE AINTNO MEXICANS" SO.....................................Its not a real gangster thing , but just a general youth attitude!!! TAKE WaRNING
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Post by meme on May 6, 2006 7:27:03 GMT -5
Toniann, What kind of drugs was the murderer on while he murdered?
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Post by toniann on May 7, 2006 12:00:29 GMT -5
I dont know,Thats why i want the autopsy report. his mother sales meth
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Post by meme on May 7, 2006 17:17:12 GMT -5
Toniann, the homicide detective should know what drugs were in his system. Give him/her a call & let me know!
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Post by toniann on May 9, 2006 6:16:42 GMT -5
me me, The fact that the F>B>I> and the Texas rangers where in my yard would lead one to believe that someone knows something huh? All I get is a runaround when I start asking questions "o well mayyem you have to call so- and so. There is no So and so to speak to noone knows anything and I feel as though Im fixin to go postal if someone dont start talking to me UUUUUHG But I am not going to give up. there has to be someone outthere...... Thank you for your advise aI wish it where that easy oxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxo
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Post by meme on May 9, 2006 14:28:24 GMT -5
When the FBI and Texas Rangers were in your yard- they were looking for something. Evidence, drugs, murder weapon, etc. What a fiasco. I bet all the neighbors got an eyefull. Are any of your neighbors suportive toward you? Hope so! _______________ It would have been really tempting to make a quick poster to hang in your front window that read: "Attention FBI & Texas Rangers: Tell me what you're looking for so I can help you find it".
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Post by toniann on May 9, 2006 15:41:44 GMT -5
oh meme< i was told to go in the house and not come out!!!!!!!!!i think had they let me out I could have found her in time.... she was only a few hundred yards from my back door.........I dont think i have told you guys this yet, but they found evedence of her in the nieghbors home.....a broken window splattered with blood!!!!!!!! but it was in the next county,just yards from the county line!!!! It took two hours to get that county out!!!!! She was bleeding to death and I was being forced(physically) to stay in my house!!!!!!!!
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Post by pumpkin12903 on May 9, 2006 17:14:40 GMT -5
As a recovering alcoholic (nearly 6 1/2 years sober), I can say in my case it was ALWAYS MY CHOICE when I did my thing. I knew exactly what I was doing before that 1st drink. It was all up to me. I knew how much would do what, how I would feel, etc., once I did it the 1st few times. So BEFORE anyone takes a drug or drink, they make a concious choice. 1 big reason I avoided anything but alcohol is that you have no idea WHAT people put in the stuff. Alcohol to me was predictable, and regulated. Anyway, it's up to the person if they do the drugs/alcohol or NOT. And if we DO, we've got to FACE THE CONSEQUENCES. That's all there is to it. So I don't have a LOT of sympathy for those who say "I was so drunk I didn't know what I was doing". This person made the CHOICE to get drunk to THAT POINT, so they are responsible. Thanks for listening.
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Post by meme on May 9, 2006 19:00:06 GMT -5
Toniann, no, I didn't realize her body had been found close by. There was nothing you could have done- nothing. It was beyond yyour control. ______________ It's natural to think "what if" and that you could have saved her. Please don't torment yourself, there was nothing you could do.
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Post by meme on May 9, 2006 20:24:48 GMT -5
Pumpkin, we definately agree on the drug & alcohol issue!
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Post by pumpkin12903 on May 10, 2006 10:07:40 GMT -5
Thanks, Flakee! It's worth it, as scary as it is in the beginning. I never want to go back. I lost a lot during those years, time that can't be gotten back. If you don't mind my asking, did your Mom get clean? I'm hoping so. Thanks again for the compliment.
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